How Does A Barlow Increase Eye Relief?
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How Does A Barlow Increase Eye Relief?
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If I barlow a 10mm eyepiece with an eye relief of 8mm, how much more eye relief will I get?
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If I barlow a 10mm eyepiece with an eye relief of 8mm, how much more eye relief will I get?
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Re: How Does A Barlow Increase Eye Relief?
This is NOT an easy question to answer since it depends of the designs of the Barlow lens and the eyepiece involved.
Only a design like the TeleVue Powermates will preserve the placement of the exit pupil and therefore the eye relief is my understanding. So if you're using an eyepiece that has a native 8mm eye relief that should be what you get (approximately) with all of the Powermates.
With a classic Barlow you get a little more eye relief maybe 9-11mm. Maybe more. It depends on details.
I've not desired to go into the weeds on this. From a practical POV with a Powermate I put my eye where I usually put it. With a classic Barlow I know I'll get more eye relief. But as a practical matter for an 8mm eye relief ocular I'd just start at 8mm and back off.
On CN there was a post on this topic with formulas specific to various Barlows. FWIW it's here:
https://www.cloudynights.com/topic/4857 ... ye-relief/
I'm not going to bother since I regard this as lily gilding. I prefer to assume the eye relief is roughly the same and go from there.
Only a design like the TeleVue Powermates will preserve the placement of the exit pupil and therefore the eye relief is my understanding. So if you're using an eyepiece that has a native 8mm eye relief that should be what you get (approximately) with all of the Powermates.
With a classic Barlow you get a little more eye relief maybe 9-11mm. Maybe more. It depends on details.
I've not desired to go into the weeds on this. From a practical POV with a Powermate I put my eye where I usually put it. With a classic Barlow I know I'll get more eye relief. But as a practical matter for an 8mm eye relief ocular I'd just start at 8mm and back off.
On CN there was a post on this topic with formulas specific to various Barlows. FWIW it's here:
https://www.cloudynights.com/topic/4857 ... ye-relief/
I'm not going to bother since I regard this as lily gilding. I prefer to assume the eye relief is roughly the same and go from there.
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Re: How Does A Barlow Increase Eye Relief?
I'm reading the text in the attachment as saying that you 'increase' the eye relief because...
A 20mm eyepiece will have a longer eye relief than a 10mm eyepiece (typically at least)
A 20mm eyepiece used with a barlow will have a longer eye relief than a 10mm eyepiece without one (ditto)
so using a 20mm eyepiece with a barlow will give the same magnification as a 10mm, but with more eye relief (usual caveats apply!)
I was not aware that barlowing an eyepiece would change its eye relief - so thanks nFA, for the info.
A 20mm eyepiece will have a longer eye relief than a 10mm eyepiece (typically at least)
A 20mm eyepiece used with a barlow will have a longer eye relief than a 10mm eyepiece without one (ditto)
so using a 20mm eyepiece with a barlow will give the same magnification as a 10mm, but with more eye relief (usual caveats apply!)
I was not aware that barlowing an eyepiece would change its eye relief - so thanks nFA, for the info.
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Re: How Does A Barlow Increase Eye Relief?
I have found that using a barlow if it does increase eye relief it is a slight amount as nFA has posted above.
Some people find it an advantage to use a barlow with eyepieces under around 10mm as the eye relief starts getting shorter so using a barlowed 20mm as a 10mm with the 20mm eye relief.
Some people find it an advantage to use a barlow with eyepieces under around 10mm as the eye relief starts getting shorter so using a barlowed 20mm as a 10mm with the 20mm eye relief.
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Re: How Does A Barlow Increase Eye Relief?
Yep, my 10mm is a barlowed 20mm.Lady Fraktor wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 5:39 pm I have found that using a barlow if it does increase eye relief it is a slight amount as nFA has posted above.
Some people find it an advantage to use a barlow with eyepieces under around 10mm as the eye relief starts getting shorter so using a barlowed 20mm as a 10mm with the 20mm eye relief.
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