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First upgrade? I'm pretty sure it was the Meade 5k UWA's. After that followed a smattering of Superviews, Meade plossls and smoothies. What gets the most use now is the BCO's in the Q-turret. It's already set up and works no issues with the 150. Clickety-click. That thing is great.
Telescopes: 10" SkyLine Dobsonian, 6" Apertura F5 Newt, Celestron Nextar GT90, Meade Infinity 80
EP: 5.5mm, 8.8mm, 14mm, 20mm, 24mm Meade 5000 UWA's, BCO's w/ Q-Turret, 26mm, 32mm, 40mm Meade 4000 Plossls, Orion Expanse, 30mm, 20mm, 15mm GSO Superview, Various others.
Binocs: 15x70 Celestron Skymaster, 10x50 Levenhuk Karma Pro, 10x42 Bushnell, 8x42 Sans & Streiffe
Mounts: Meade LX70 with dual axis motors, Celestron GT, More miscellaneous tripods than a Martian invasion.

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My first upgrade was a 2" Orion 50mm plossl MIJ for my C-8 SCT in the 1980's. I still have it! Other than that, I only used MA's, plossls, or super-plossl eyepieces I got with each new scope purchase for about 35 years. In the last couple of years, I have bought in this order: 9mm Orion Expanse, 4mm TV Radian, 18mm Baader Classic Ortho, 14mm Meade UWA Series 4000, 16mm BST FF, 27mm Starguider FF, 32mm Celestron plossl, 40mm Meade super-plossl.
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Don Alvarez wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2020 3:35 pm First upgrade? I'm pretty sure it was the Meade 5k UWA's. After that followed a smattering of Superviews, Meade plossls and smoothies. What gets the most use now is the BCO's in the Q-turret. It's already set up and works no issues with the 150. Clickety-click. That thing is great.
Glad you are enjoying BCO Q-turret. I feel that it should be a strong contender for any frac or CAT owner looking for EP upgrades.
Scopes: Stellarvue: SV102ED; Celestron: 9.25" EdgeHD, 8" SCT, 150ST, Onyx 80ED; iOptron: Hankmeister 6" Mak; SW: 7" Mak; Meade: 80ST.
Mounts: SW: SkyTee2, AzGTi; iOptron: AZMP; ES: Twilight I; Bresser: EXOS2; UA: MicroStar.
Binos: APM: 100-90 APO; Canon: IS 15x50; Orion: Binoviewer, LG II 15x70, WV 10x50, Nikon: AE 16x50, 10x50, 8x40.
EPs: Pentax: XWs & XFs; TeleVue: Delites, Panoptic & Plossls; ES: 68, 62; Vixen: SLVs; Baader: BCOs, Aspherics, Mark IV.
Diagonals: Baader: BBHS mirror, Zeiss Spec T2 prism, Clicklock dielectric; TeleVue: Evebrite dielectric; AltairAstro: 2" prism.
Filters: Lumicon: DeepSky, UHC, OIII, H-beta; Baader: Moon & SkyGlow, Contrast Booster, UHC-S, 6-color set; Astronomik: UHC.
Solar: HA: Lunt 50mm single stack, W/L: Meade Herschel wedge.

Observing: DSOs: 3106 (Completed: Messier, Herschel 1, 2, 3. In progress: H2,500: 2180, S110: 77). Doubles: 2437, Comets: 34, Asteroids: 257
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Absolutely! Especially if the bundle goes on sale again for under $200, the one with the little tin box. It's the ultimate grab and go.
Telescopes: 10" SkyLine Dobsonian, 6" Apertura F5 Newt, Celestron Nextar GT90, Meade Infinity 80
EP: 5.5mm, 8.8mm, 14mm, 20mm, 24mm Meade 5000 UWA's, BCO's w/ Q-Turret, 26mm, 32mm, 40mm Meade 4000 Plossls, Orion Expanse, 30mm, 20mm, 15mm GSO Superview, Various others.
Binocs: 15x70 Celestron Skymaster, 10x50 Levenhuk Karma Pro, 10x42 Bushnell, 8x42 Sans & Streiffe
Mounts: Meade LX70 with dual axis motors, Celestron GT, More miscellaneous tripods than a Martian invasion.

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Mine were .965" Ramsdens that came with my old Gilbert 3 inch reflector. As a kid I didn't know from nothing. I thought the whole set up was the cat's meow, and truth be told it did introduce me to the wonders of a sky largely unknown to me. So all said the whole shebang did what it should do. :)
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Mounts: ES Twilight-II and Twilight-I
EPs: AT 82° 28mm UWA || TV Ethos 100° 21mm and 13mm || Vixen LVW 65° 22mm ||
ES 82° 18mm || Pentax XW 70° 10mm, 7mm and 5mm || barlows
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Bigzmey wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2020 7:05 pm
Don Alvarez wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2020 3:35 pm First upgrade? I'm pretty sure it was the Meade 5k UWA's. After that followed a smattering of Superviews, Meade plossls and smoothies. What gets the most use now is the BCO's in the Q-turret. It's already set up and works no issues with the 150. Clickety-click. That thing is great.
Glad you are enjoying BCO Q-turret. I feel that it should be a strong contender for any frac or CAT owner looking for EP upgrades.
Not just CATs and Fracs! They beat out Delos on fine planetary detail especially shadow transits on Jupiter.
Scopes: Refs: Orion ST80, SV 80EDA f7, TS 102ED f11 Newts: AWB 130mm, f5, Z12 f5; Cats: VMC110L, Intes MK66,VMC200L f9.75 EPs: KK Fujiyama Orthoscopics, 2x Vixen NPLs (40-6mm) and BCOs, Baader Mark IV zooms, TV Panoptics, Delos, Plossl 32-8mm. Mixed brand Masuyama/Astroplans Binoculars: Nikon Aculon 10x50, Celestron 15x70, Baader Maxbright. Mounts: Star Seeker IV, Vixen Porta II, Celestron CG5
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My first update was a used ES 16mm/68 deg. eyepiece to fill the gap between the stock 30 and 9mm eyepieces that came with the Z8. It was advertised as "only used 4-5 times" which was true except I think the seller forgot to add "per day". It came in the wrong box, with a cap that never stays on and covered with enough skin detritus and flakes to run a proper human genome study. Despite all that and after a good cleaning, it is my most used eyepiece to date.
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notFritzArgelander wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2020 8:36 pm
Bigzmey wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2020 7:05 pm
Don Alvarez wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2020 3:35 pm First upgrade? I'm pretty sure it was the Meade 5k UWA's. After that followed a smattering of Superviews, Meade plossls and smoothies. What gets the most use now is the BCO's in the Q-turret. It's already set up and works no issues with the 150. Clickety-click. That thing is great.
Glad you are enjoying BCO Q-turret. I feel that it should be a strong contender for any frac or CAT owner looking for EP upgrades.
Not just CATs and Fracs! They beat out Delos on fine planetary detail especially shadow transits on Jupiter.
Agree! BCOs themselves perform well in any type of scopes. Q-turret will not work in Newts/DOBs - not enough inward focuser travel.
Scopes: Stellarvue: SV102ED; Celestron: 9.25" EdgeHD, 8" SCT, 150ST, Onyx 80ED; iOptron: Hankmeister 6" Mak; SW: 7" Mak; Meade: 80ST.
Mounts: SW: SkyTee2, AzGTi; iOptron: AZMP; ES: Twilight I; Bresser: EXOS2; UA: MicroStar.
Binos: APM: 100-90 APO; Canon: IS 15x50; Orion: Binoviewer, LG II 15x70, WV 10x50, Nikon: AE 16x50, 10x50, 8x40.
EPs: Pentax: XWs & XFs; TeleVue: Delites, Panoptic & Plossls; ES: 68, 62; Vixen: SLVs; Baader: BCOs, Aspherics, Mark IV.
Diagonals: Baader: BBHS mirror, Zeiss Spec T2 prism, Clicklock dielectric; TeleVue: Evebrite dielectric; AltairAstro: 2" prism.
Filters: Lumicon: DeepSky, UHC, OIII, H-beta; Baader: Moon & SkyGlow, Contrast Booster, UHC-S, 6-color set; Astronomik: UHC.
Solar: HA: Lunt 50mm single stack, W/L: Meade Herschel wedge.

Observing: DSOs: 3106 (Completed: Messier, Herschel 1, 2, 3. In progress: H2,500: 2180, S110: 77). Doubles: 2437, Comets: 34, Asteroids: 257
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Bigzmey wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2020 9:32 pm Agree! BCOs themselves perform well in any type of scopes. Q-turret will not work in Newts/DOBs - not enough inward focuser travel.
It's hit or miss on Newts I guess. It doesn't work in my 10" Skyline, but I noted when I got the Apertura 6" F5 newt that it had a lot of in-focus, and it does work with that.
Telescopes: 10" SkyLine Dobsonian, 6" Apertura F5 Newt, Celestron Nextar GT90, Meade Infinity 80
EP: 5.5mm, 8.8mm, 14mm, 20mm, 24mm Meade 5000 UWA's, BCO's w/ Q-Turret, 26mm, 32mm, 40mm Meade 4000 Plossls, Orion Expanse, 30mm, 20mm, 15mm GSO Superview, Various others.
Binocs: 15x70 Celestron Skymaster, 10x50 Levenhuk Karma Pro, 10x42 Bushnell, 8x42 Sans & Streiffe
Mounts: Meade LX70 with dual axis motors, Celestron GT, More miscellaneous tripods than a Martian invasion.

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Don Alvarez wrote: Tue Apr 07, 2020 12:52 pm
Bigzmey wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2020 9:32 pm Agree! BCOs themselves perform well in any type of scopes. Q-turret will not work in Newts/DOBs - not enough inward focuser travel.
It's hit or miss on Newts I guess. It doesn't work in my 10" Skyline, but I noted when I got the Apertura 6" F5 newt that it had a lot of in-focus, and it does work with that.
Good to know. Was Apertura 6" designed with AP in mind?
Scopes: Stellarvue: SV102ED; Celestron: 9.25" EdgeHD, 8" SCT, 150ST, Onyx 80ED; iOptron: Hankmeister 6" Mak; SW: 7" Mak; Meade: 80ST.
Mounts: SW: SkyTee2, AzGTi; iOptron: AZMP; ES: Twilight I; Bresser: EXOS2; UA: MicroStar.
Binos: APM: 100-90 APO; Canon: IS 15x50; Orion: Binoviewer, LG II 15x70, WV 10x50, Nikon: AE 16x50, 10x50, 8x40.
EPs: Pentax: XWs & XFs; TeleVue: Delites, Panoptic & Plossls; ES: 68, 62; Vixen: SLVs; Baader: BCOs, Aspherics, Mark IV.
Diagonals: Baader: BBHS mirror, Zeiss Spec T2 prism, Clicklock dielectric; TeleVue: Evebrite dielectric; AltairAstro: 2" prism.
Filters: Lumicon: DeepSky, UHC, OIII, H-beta; Baader: Moon & SkyGlow, Contrast Booster, UHC-S, 6-color set; Astronomik: UHC.
Solar: HA: Lunt 50mm single stack, W/L: Meade Herschel wedge.

Observing: DSOs: 3106 (Completed: Messier, Herschel 1, 2, 3. In progress: H2,500: 2180, S110: 77). Doubles: 2437, Comets: 34, Asteroids: 257
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Bigzmey wrote: Tue Apr 07, 2020 5:49 pm Good to know. Was Apertura 6" designed with AP in mind?
The F4 150 is their astrograph, but before I bought it I put the question to Highpoint about the F5 150 and using it with a DSLR, they said it would work so long as I used a coma corrector. So maybe it is, or maybe it's just serendipity. I ended up with the F5 because its cheaper and could double duty with visual and AP.

Funny thing is, even with the Q-turret I still have a reasonable amount of in-focus left. I have to use extension tubes with EP's a lot, even though the primary seems to be all the way back in the housing.
Telescopes: 10" SkyLine Dobsonian, 6" Apertura F5 Newt, Celestron Nextar GT90, Meade Infinity 80
EP: 5.5mm, 8.8mm, 14mm, 20mm, 24mm Meade 5000 UWA's, BCO's w/ Q-Turret, 26mm, 32mm, 40mm Meade 4000 Plossls, Orion Expanse, 30mm, 20mm, 15mm GSO Superview, Various others.
Binocs: 15x70 Celestron Skymaster, 10x50 Levenhuk Karma Pro, 10x42 Bushnell, 8x42 Sans & Streiffe
Mounts: Meade LX70 with dual axis motors, Celestron GT, More miscellaneous tripods than a Martian invasion.

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Don Alvarez wrote: Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:50 pm
Bigzmey wrote: Tue Apr 07, 2020 5:49 pm Good to know. Was Apertura 6" designed with AP in mind?
The F4 150 is their astrograph, but before I bought it I put the question to Highpoint about the F5 150 and using it with a DSLR, they said it would work so long as I used a coma corrector. So maybe it is, or maybe it's just serendipity. I ended up with the F5 because its cheaper and could double duty with visual and AP.

Funny thing is, even with the Q-turret I still have a reasonable amount of in-focus left. I have to use extension tubes with EP's a lot, even though the primary seems to be all the way back in the housing.
This makes sense. All my APO/ED scopes have plenty of inward focus, which is great. Achros made strictly for visual not so. I need to tweak them to use EP turret or filter wheels.
Scopes: Stellarvue: SV102ED; Celestron: 9.25" EdgeHD, 8" SCT, 150ST, Onyx 80ED; iOptron: Hankmeister 6" Mak; SW: 7" Mak; Meade: 80ST.
Mounts: SW: SkyTee2, AzGTi; iOptron: AZMP; ES: Twilight I; Bresser: EXOS2; UA: MicroStar.
Binos: APM: 100-90 APO; Canon: IS 15x50; Orion: Binoviewer, LG II 15x70, WV 10x50, Nikon: AE 16x50, 10x50, 8x40.
EPs: Pentax: XWs & XFs; TeleVue: Delites, Panoptic & Plossls; ES: 68, 62; Vixen: SLVs; Baader: BCOs, Aspherics, Mark IV.
Diagonals: Baader: BBHS mirror, Zeiss Spec T2 prism, Clicklock dielectric; TeleVue: Evebrite dielectric; AltairAstro: 2" prism.
Filters: Lumicon: DeepSky, UHC, OIII, H-beta; Baader: Moon & SkyGlow, Contrast Booster, UHC-S, 6-color set; Astronomik: UHC.
Solar: HA: Lunt 50mm single stack, W/L: Meade Herschel wedge.

Observing: DSOs: 3106 (Completed: Messier, Herschel 1, 2, 3. In progress: H2,500: 2180, S110: 77). Doubles: 2437, Comets: 34, Asteroids: 257
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Well shoot, I just noticed the word upgrade in the title and I merely mentioned my first eyepieces. :doh:

I guess it would have been when I moved to plossls then, which were a big jump from the Ramsden.
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Scopes: Astro Sky 17.5 f/4.5 Dob || Apertura AD12 f/5 Dob || Zhumell Z10 f/4.9 Dob ||
ES AR127 f/6.5 || ES ED80 f/6 || Apertura 6" f/5 Newtonian
Mounts: ES Twilight-II and Twilight-I
EPs: AT 82° 28mm UWA || TV Ethos 100° 21mm and 13mm || Vixen LVW 65° 22mm ||
ES 82° 18mm || Pentax XW 70° 10mm, 7mm and 5mm || barlows
Filters (2 inch): DGM NPB || Orion Ultra Block, O-III and Sky Glow || Baader HaB
Primary Field Atlases: Uranometria All-Sky Edition and Interstellarum Deep Sky Atlas
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My first EP-upgrade was to replace the tiny vixen 8mm Huygens by a new 12,5mm Hygens-Mittenzwey EP..... in 1985....

Ok.... this year I replace the two tiny stock Orion EP coming with my XT10i by a Meade 40mm Super Plössl, a Baader Hyperion 21mm, a Meade 5000 UAW 14mm, a Baader Hyperion 10mm and a Meade 5000 UAW 6,7mm. That was a real update. Just looking for a Hyperion aspheric 31 or 36mm and a 5mm on the short-side.

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Important info for the readers here: The Baader Hyperions have a housing with an additional 2''-Option. When using this option on the Orion XT10i it is impossible to reach a focus! You can't use the 2''-Option of the Hyperion EPs on this Dobson. The focus is to short! Not to long. So a low-profile-focuser will be no solution.
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