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For those of you who image these planets do you use a lot of power and capture a video to stack as you would with Jupiter or Saturn? Or do you back off stack a series of frames as you would with a DSO? I've never really thought about it much, but Uranus is reaching opposition and I am curious. This has been my first year really trying to shoot planets, so much of it is new to me.
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I have never seen any images of Uranus or Neptune of any visual meaning from any forum only from Nasa
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i've had a crack it with low/average results. havn't done too much reading up on about imaging it . they are very dim and require max gain settings ... for any detail ,you'll need ir filters ..

going max gain shows a ball of specks,very hard to focus on such a noisy image , it's best to focus on a star or another planet thats bright with a lower gain setting then move to the dimmer planets ..
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i think you've already seen my image but here is my horrible attempt haha , i have no more tips for you sorry : (

viewtopic.php?f=70&t=13634&p=114999&hil ... us#p114999

edit: i forgot to awsner, yes you image these planets in video format like saturn,mars,jupiter ectt.turbulent air will ruin the tiny details on the small image of the planet.

this is what my live view looked like as shown in sky magizine, a bunch of specs ... , the middle image is the stack frames and the last is the sharpened

https://images.immediate.co.uk/producti ... =620%2C207

https://www.skyatnightmagazine.com/astr ... s-neptune/
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I was trying to work out what camera chris go uses, he just upgaded from a mono back to colour, apparently his new camera is far better in ir then the older mono, pretty sure his old camera was a asi 290mm or the qhy 290. something cool i found out is that you can image mono with a colour camera and the ir wavelengths go through the rgb bayer so you get full resolution and photons hit on the whole chip .
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Re: How do you capture Uranus and Neptune?

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This is what you get if you stack a few unguided, overexposed, 25 second images:

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=4812&hilit=Uranus#p40896

That was the Canon 600D. Wouldn't mind having another go at it with the new camera.

Definitely stacked frames from a video file next time.

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I think recording a video of such small and dim objects is beyond my skill level at this time. I've imaged a few DSOs, but those were with my 80ED, not my C11. My tracking on that big thing is still sloppy. I may just try for a couple of good snapshots this time. Since it is not likely that I'll come away with surface features a quick single shot may be able to pick up a colored disk. I may give it a try if the weather ever clears up again. :sprefac:
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Uranus at 90x

Lol, I was in over my head, so I just took a snapshot. Here are the stats:

telescope: C11; Camera: Canon 80D; ISO: 3200; Exposure 4"
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very nice, you have the moons !
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cameras : asi 1600mm-c/asi1600mm-c,asi120mc,prostar lp guidecam, nikkon d60, sony a7,asi 290 mm
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I noticed that when I brightened up the picture, but I didn't think it was possible so I figured it was just some dim stars in the background.
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Yup, moons. When I shoot these two planets, the moons are all I go for. I find a few seconds will suffice for all 5 'classic' moons of Uranus, but Miranda is hard, and Triton is probably the easiest of the bunch. Did Nereid a couple years back, but it requires planning and is more of a DSO than a moon at 19th magnitude.

Good catch,
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Now your going to go and get me hooked on trying to find the moons, lol.
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