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Monochrome Camera
Just a simple question, can you use an iPad to operate / control a monochrome camera and refractor telescope rather than a laptop ? If so what do I need to make the connections and with what app ?
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Re: Monochrome Camera
Hi LDW,
I am not familiar with mac/ipad apps forAP , but several members here are and hopefully they will see this post.
I’m curious too.
I use my ipad to control my imaging laptop remotely using Teamviewer. Works great. I know that you are looking for ideas how an ipad can actually run the session.
I have a 9 year+ old Dell laptop that works great. There is so much more available for a Window machine as far asAP software.
You can find a used Windows laptop for a really good price. I bought my Dell E6430 about 4 years+ ago for $250 on Amazon.
Even as old as it is, it runs the session well. I runNINA , PHD2, Green Swamp Server, K stars (only for image preview), and Cartes du Ceil concurrently.
It has a early generation i5, 8G ram, and a cheap $25 512G ssd (I added).
I’ll bet that you could find something similar for $150 or less.
Just a thought instead of buying lightning to usb hub hardware and fussing with ipad apps that are probably inferior to windows based imaging apps.
But, then again, maybe someone here can offer some better suggestions.
Thanks and good luck!
I am not familiar with mac/ipad apps for
I’m curious too.
I use my ipad to control my imaging laptop remotely using Teamviewer. Works great. I know that you are looking for ideas how an ipad can actually run the session.
I have a 9 year+ old Dell laptop that works great. There is so much more available for a Window machine as far as
You can find a used Windows laptop for a really good price. I bought my Dell E6430 about 4 years+ ago for $250 on Amazon.
Even as old as it is, it runs the session well. I run
It has a early generation i5, 8G ram, and a cheap $25 512G ssd (I added).
I’ll bet that you could find something similar for $150 or less.
Just a thought instead of buying lightning to usb hub hardware and fussing with ipad apps that are probably inferior to windows based imaging apps.
But, then again, maybe someone here can offer some better suggestions.
Thanks and good luck!
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Re: Monochrome Camera
i know raspberry pi software is taking of for astronomy ,unfortuantly i have no idea about mac os ..
a few words come up for google search on mac/astronomy, kstar,ekos andascom alpaca
you can also do remote ascess, have a 12v windows / linux device connected to your gear and ascess it with your mac .
it might help others to awsner your question if you list your mount and camera .
a few words come up for google search on mac/astronomy, kstar,ekos and
you can also do remote ascess, have a 12v windows / linux device connected to your gear and ascess it with your mac .
it might help others to awsner your question if you list your mount and camera .
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cameras : asi 1600mm-c/asi1600mm-c,asi120mc,prostar lp guidecam, nikkon d60, sony a7,asi 290 mm
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filters : 2'' astronomik lp/badder lrgb h-a,sII,oIII,h-b,Baader Solar Continuum, chroma 3nm ha,sii,oiii,nii,rgb,lowglow,uv/ir,Thousand Oaks Solar Filter,1.25'' #47 violet,pro planet 742 ir,pro planet 807 ir,pro planet 642 bp ir.
extras : skywatcher f4 aplanatic cc, Baader MPCC MKIII Coma Corrector,Orion Field Flattener,zwo 1.25''adc.starlight maxi 2" 9x filter wheel,tele vue 2x barlow .

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Re: Monochrome Camera
I will use the iOptron SkyHunter AZyobbo89 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 1:09 pm i know raspberry pi software is taking of for astronomy ,unfortuantly i have no idea about mac os ..
a few words come up for google search on mac/astronomy, kstar,ekos and ascom alpaca
you can also do remote ascess, have a 12v windows / linux device connected to your gear and ascess it with your mac .
it might help others to awsner your question if you list your mount and camera .
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Re: Monochrome Camera
I will also be doing solar using a HelioFind mount / tripod and my Lunt LS50 scope. As I mentioned it will be a monochrome camera of reasonable quality such as a higher end Svbony etc.yobbo89 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 1:09 pm i know raspberry pi software is taking of for astronomy ,unfortuantly i have no idea about mac os ..
a few words come up for google search on mac/astronomy, kstar,ekos and ascom alpaca
you can also do remote ascess, have a 12v windows / linux device connected to your gear and ascess it with your mac .
it might help others to awsner your question if you list your mount and camera .
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Re: Monochrome Camera
This is a little too generic. Could you be more specific about which camera and telescope you are referring to? Each manufacturer has a different piece of software to access either the camera or the mount. So being more specific would help.
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∞ Primary Scopes: #1: Celestron CPC1100 #2: 8" f/7.5 Dob #3: CR150HD f/8 6" frac
∞ AP Scopes: #1: TPO 6" f/9 RC #2: ES 102mm f/7 APO #3: ES 80mm f/6 APO
∞ G&G Scopes: #1: Meade 102mm f/7.8 #2: Bresser 102mm f/4.5
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∞ Primary Scopes: #1: Celestron CPC1100 #2: 8" f/7.5 Dob #3: CR150HD f/8 6" frac
∞ AP Scopes: #1: TPO 6" f/9 RC #2: ES 102mm f/7 APO #3: ES 80mm f/6 APO
∞ G&G Scopes: #1: Meade 102mm f/7.8 #2: Bresser 102mm f/4.5
∞ Guide Scopes: 70 & 80mm fracs -- The El Cheapo Bros.
∞ Mounts: iOptron CEM70AG, SW EQ6, Celestron AVX, SLT & GT (Alt-Az), Meade DS2000
∞ Cameras:ZWO ASI294MC Pro, 662MC, & 120MC, Canon T3i, Orion SSAG, WYZE Cam3
∞ Binos: 10X50,11X70,15X70, 25X100
∞ EPs: ES 2": 21mm 100° & 30mm 82° Pentax XW: 7, 10, 14, & 20mm 70° And: a box full of others

I never met a scope I didn't want to keep. "My God, it's full of stars." Searching the skies since 1966!
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Re: Monochrome Camera
What I want to know is whether there are adapters, cables etc. that will allow me to use my iPad as the monitor for a camera, any brand of camera, I don't think at this point software for a specific brand / scope has become part of my concern. Its to make a physical connection between the two, as you know there is only the one port on the iPad, for one type of connector. The scope is a non issue. The question is, can I use my iPad as monitor and if so what hardware etc. do I need ?
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Re: Monochrome Camera
The question is do monochrome cameras, in general, come with a cable or can I buy a cable that connects the camera to an iPad ? My concern is more directed to anyone using the iPad as I want to ? If there is no experience then I will have to do more leg work and try and find out, use a different approach.
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Re: Monochrome Camera
Read my post above your first.
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Re: Monochrome Camera
Most cameras are USB connection, it's going to depend on the specific camera brand and if drivers are made for the Mac/Pad. Doesn't matter if it's monochrome or OSC
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Image OTA: EvoStar ED80, WO Z73, C8-A XLT
Mount: EQ6-R Pro Pier, AZ-EQ5 Pro Pier
Guide OTA: Orion 60mm, WO 32mm, ZWO OAG, SV501P
Guide Cam: ZWO 120mm, 290mm mini
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EAA Cam: SVBony SV705C
EP: Baader Hyperion Modular Set
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Re: Monochrome Camera
If most camera connections are USB, which I was thinking then I am looking for the adapter to convert it to an iPad connector, I was hoping others had already experience with it. I mention monochrome because that is what I am aiming for so it does matter and if I can't convert to an iPad monitor the drivers concern doesn't matter because I don't intend to buy a dedicated laptop with a different operating system. So you can see why I am focused in this thread because as usually happens they can expand all over the place way out beyond.
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Re: Monochrome Camera
I own 5 different Astro cameras, both mono, and OSC . ALL of them use USB cables to connect to a "control" device. Those cables have either a USB A or B (on the newest cameras - USB AB) on one end while the other is USB A. Is your solution something as simple as this?
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∞ Primary Scopes: #1: Celestron CPC1100 #2: 8" f/7.5 Dob #3: CR150HD f/8 6" frac
∞ AP Scopes: #1: TPO 6" f/9 RC #2: ES 102mm f/7 APO #3: ES 80mm f/6 APO
∞ G&G Scopes: #1: Meade 102mm f/7.8 #2: Bresser 102mm f/4.5
∞ Guide Scopes: 70 & 80mm fracs -- The El Cheapo Bros.
∞ Mounts: iOptron CEM70AG, SW EQ6, Celestron AVX, SLT & GT (Alt-Az), Meade DS2000
∞ Cameras:ZWO ASI294MC Pro, 662MC, & 120MC, Canon T3i, Orion SSAG, WYZE Cam3
∞ Binos: 10X50,11X70,15X70, 25X100
∞ EPs: ES 2": 21mm 100° & 30mm 82° Pentax XW: 7, 10, 14, & 20mm 70° And: a box full of others

I never met a scope I didn't want to keep. "My God, it's full of stars." Searching the skies since 1966!
∞ Primary Scopes: #1: Celestron CPC1100 #2: 8" f/7.5 Dob #3: CR150HD f/8 6" frac
∞ AP Scopes: #1: TPO 6" f/9 RC #2: ES 102mm f/7 APO #3: ES 80mm f/6 APO
∞ G&G Scopes: #1: Meade 102mm f/7.8 #2: Bresser 102mm f/4.5
∞ Guide Scopes: 70 & 80mm fracs -- The El Cheapo Bros.
∞ Mounts: iOptron CEM70AG, SW EQ6, Celestron AVX, SLT & GT (Alt-Az), Meade DS2000
∞ Cameras:ZWO ASI294MC Pro, 662MC, & 120MC, Canon T3i, Orion SSAG, WYZE Cam3
∞ Binos: 10X50,11X70,15X70, 25X100
∞ EPs: ES 2": 21mm 100° & 30mm 82° Pentax XW: 7, 10, 14, & 20mm 70° And: a box full of others

I never met a scope I didn't want to keep. "My God, it's full of stars." Searching the skies since 1966!
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Re: Monochrome Camera
I have seen that unit, I think it is exactly what I am looking for, I was just hoping someone would confirm that through their own experience. It is in my Amazon cart. I might already have one kicking around, lol. Thanx !JayTee wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 9:03 pm I own 5 different Astro cameras, both mono, and OSC. ALL of them use USB cables to connect to a "control" device. Those cables have either a USB A or B (on the newest cameras - USB AB) on one end while the other is USB A. Is your solution something as simple as this?
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Re: Monochrome Camera
I would like some recommendations, based on personal use, for a decent, mid range priced mono cameras that I will try with my 60-100mm, f5.4-8.3 refractors (4) and my Lunt solar 50 and my SW solarquest mount. I have been looking at a Svbony model 305, 1.25" cam.
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Re: Monochrome Camera
From my end I have narrowed it down to a ZWO AS1290 MM mono cam. using Sky Safari and ASIAIR on my iPad. I will mount my scope on my iOptron SkyHunter mount. Sound OK so far ?
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Re: Monochrome Camera
That's a very good choice if you are looking for a "smallish" sensor size. Everything else sounds great. I'm interested to see how that mount works out for you.
Cheers,
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∞ Primary Scopes: #1: Celestron CPC1100 #2: 8" f/7.5 Dob #3: CR150HD f/8 6" frac
∞ AP Scopes: #1: TPO 6" f/9 RC #2: ES 102mm f/7 APO #3: ES 80mm f/6 APO
∞ G&G Scopes: #1: Meade 102mm f/7.8 #2: Bresser 102mm f/4.5
∞ Guide Scopes: 70 & 80mm fracs -- The El Cheapo Bros.
∞ Mounts: iOptron CEM70AG, SW EQ6, Celestron AVX, SLT & GT (Alt-Az), Meade DS2000
∞ Cameras:ZWO ASI294MC Pro, 662MC, & 120MC, Canon T3i, Orion SSAG, WYZE Cam3
∞ Binos: 10X50,11X70,15X70, 25X100
∞ EPs: ES 2": 21mm 100° & 30mm 82° Pentax XW: 7, 10, 14, & 20mm 70° And: a box full of others

I never met a scope I didn't want to keep. "My God, it's full of stars." Searching the skies since 1966!
∞ Primary Scopes: #1: Celestron CPC1100 #2: 8" f/7.5 Dob #3: CR150HD f/8 6" frac
∞ AP Scopes: #1: TPO 6" f/9 RC #2: ES 102mm f/7 APO #3: ES 80mm f/6 APO
∞ G&G Scopes: #1: Meade 102mm f/7.8 #2: Bresser 102mm f/4.5
∞ Guide Scopes: 70 & 80mm fracs -- The El Cheapo Bros.
∞ Mounts: iOptron CEM70AG, SW EQ6, Celestron AVX, SLT & GT (Alt-Az), Meade DS2000
∞ Cameras:ZWO ASI294MC Pro, 662MC, & 120MC, Canon T3i, Orion SSAG, WYZE Cam3
∞ Binos: 10X50,11X70,15X70, 25X100
∞ EPs: ES 2": 21mm 100° & 30mm 82° Pentax XW: 7, 10, 14, & 20mm 70° And: a box full of others

I never met a scope I didn't want to keep. "My God, it's full of stars." Searching the skies since 1966!
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