AP Processing Challenge No. 4

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Hello all Astrophotographers, accomplished, aspiring and curious.

The format of the AP Processing challenge is about to change. There have been a couple of submissions of data for processing and so that those who submitted don't have to wait too long, the next challenge starts today!

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AP Processing Challenge No. 4

Umasscrew39 (Bruce) submitted his capture of the Needle Galaxy (NGC 4565) (with a touch of NGC 4562)

"My new powerhouse threadripper desktop finally arrived. I have been collecting data with my new ZWO ASI2600 but my laptop kept crashing due to the large file sizes. So, here is my first one capturing the Needle Galaxy and NGC4562 in the lower right slightly visible. This is 3 hours total integration (120s guided suns) on a C11" EdgeHD @ f/7 and an Optolong L-Pro filter."

NGC 4565 is an edge-on spiral galaxy about 30 to 50 million light-years away in the constellation Coma Berenices. It lies close to the North Galactic Pole and has a visual magnitude of approximately 10. It is known as the Needle Galaxy for its narrow profile.

The fits file has been calibrated and stacked ready for processing and can be downloaded from here:



Please download the files and process using your preferred software. Then post an image of your results with a description of your methods for discussion.

You can also just join the discussion with some input for us all to learn from.

AP Processing Challenge No. 4 starts today and ends on the 14th August.

If you have data to submit for a future challenge please email a cloud storage download link to tssapchallenge@theskysearchers.com

Have fun!

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Thanks Graeme,

I like the new format!
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Thanks Jim,

I look forward to seeing your submission.

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here is my go .
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My attempt using Startools
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yobbo89 wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 6:31 pm
here is my go .
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Nice one Yobbo.

It's a fine looking galaxy. How did you process the file?

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jerrysykes wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 6:55 pm
My attempt using Startools
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Cheers Jerry

Could you post up your Startools method?

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Graeme1858 wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 8:34 pm
jerrysykes wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 6:55 pm
My attempt using Startools
Image

Cheers Jerry

Could you post up your Startools method?

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Processed using Startools 1.5

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Graeme1858 wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 8:31 pm
yobbo89 wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 6:31 pm
here is my go .
Image

Nice one Yobbo.

It's a fine looking galaxy. How did you process the file?

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I'll give you the full details when I get some free time and analyse my exact process , i ended spliting the frames to b/w and processed individually and reduce the background noise on the green channel, used some deconvolution ectt
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Re: AP Processing Challenge No. 4

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Processed in Photoshop ...

- imported Luminosity using Fits Liberator w/ ArcSinH(ArcSin H(x)) processing
- minor stretching
- background noise reduction
- sharpening
- set background level at 17
- imported RGB image as a tif file
- color balancing
- curves
- star color boost
- green background reduction
- set background level at 17
- blended RGB and Luminosity
- selective contrast applied to bring out faint detail in dark dust lane

Great data ... very little processing needed.
Umasscrew39-NGC4565-AF.jpg
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My shot in Startools (new version 1.7.402). Quick process. See link below for processing log file.



Had a hard time with some of the saturated stars, but otherwise a similar image to those above. Perhaps not as sharp as some.

One of the cleanest datasets I have ever seen!
Umasscrew39 NGC4565 Needle Galaxy processed.jpg
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Well, these are all great images given my lack of good data for you all to work with. This was taken from my home observatory located just north of Orlando, FL under Bortle 6 skies. This was the best I could do with my limited processing experience. Basically, I use PixInsight to do both the pre-and post-processing. I used the new WBPP script followed by a simple post-processing workflow: ABE, color calibration, histogram transformation, TGVDenoise, mask generation to sharpen the image, curves transformation. I have found that the new ZWO ASI2600, as well as the 533, both have very low noise and no amp glow as advertised.

Any advice you can give me would be greatly appreciated.
Needle Galaxy_cropped.jpg
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Tell you what Bruce, that is very clean data! The usual trade off between enhancing data and increasing noise was not an issue at all.

When I first opened the file there were three images, a line, a green version of the image that looked like it had already been stretched and the normal fits file. Is the green one for a purpose? I didn't use it!

So I opened the fits file in Gimp and pulled a couple of gentle stretches, levels didn't need much adjusting. Then I spent some time colour balancing. I pulled up the shadows red and blue to balance out the green cast. Saturation didn't increase the colour much. Sharpened the whole thing with an unsharp mask. Finished with a Yobbo style crop to use the star and minor galaxy as corner markers and to offset the main target. And that's all that was needed! I might still have a tad too much green but it looks more natural to me than over tweaking the magenta.


Image


Thanks for the image Bruce. That ASI2600 does a great job.

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Okay,

So here is my attempt at this. It felt like a homework assignment!

Here's the full image.
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Here's the crop.
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Here's the steps in PSCC.
Image

I do my color balancing using the "curves" function. I individually adjust each of the RGB curves until the colors look correct (to me).

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Well, at least you got an A+ on your homework assignment! :lol:
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JayTee wrote:
Sat Jul 18, 2020 11:32 am
Okay,

So here is my attempt at this. It felt like a homework assignment!

Here's the full image.
Image
Here's the crop.
Image
Here's the steps in PSCC.
Image

I do my color balancing using the "curves" function. I individually adjust each of the RGB curves until the colors look correct (to me).

Cheers,
JT
Thanks for sharing your pic workflow JT. I am a Startools user and a recent subscriber to pscc.

I might give it a go in ps following your guide.

Thanks
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This is my process, done in Photoshop.
Mainly color balancing, stretching, increasing the colour and a gradient exterminator.

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That's a nice bright, clear rendition Carole.

Makes me think I might have darkened the sky a bit too much in mine.

Think I'll have another go! :)

Thanks

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i'm coming late to the party because i did not see the new system till today!!

Anyway, in photoshop;
Arcsin stretch
Gradient exterminator
A couple of general gentle stretches in curves and colour balance in levels
HLVG
carbonis local contrast
Carbonis lighten DSO
Noise reduction with Dfine2
selective high pass routine to bring structure to dark lane
Camera raw filter - slight dehaze, tiny bit noise reduction, pulled back the sat just a tad.
I then made a lum lllayer from the green channel as it seemed to have the best dust lane structure (in retrospect i probably should have done this earlier - like before the high pass sharpen. (well dang! I'll just need to try it again :D )
All bringing me to this...
Umasscrew39 NGC4565 Needle Galaxy DLM final full .jpg
This was great data to work with so thanks very much. I dont really think i've been able to do it justice.

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Jockinireland wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 6:48 pm
i'm coming late to the party because i did not see the new system till today!!

Anyway, in photoshop;
Arcsin stretch
Gradient exterminator
A couple of general gentle stretches in curves and colour balance in levels
HLVG
carbonis local contrast
Carbonis lighten DSO
Noise reduction with Dfine2
selective high pass routine to bring structure to dark lane
Camera raw filter - slight dehaze, tiny bit noise reduction, pulled back the sat just a tad.
I then made a lum lllayer from the green channel as it seemed to have the best dust lane structure (in retrospect i probably should have done this earlier - like before the high pass sharpen. (well dang! I'll just need to try it again :D )
All bringing me to this...

This was great data to work with so thanks very much. I dont really think i've been able to do it justice.

Rgds

David

That's a very fine go at it David. I don't know if Photoshop is the same but when I opened the fits file in Gimp there were two seperate images, an rgb and a green version. I only used the rgb. When you say you used the Green chanel as a luminance layer was that the seperate green image?

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